Ecclesiastes 8 · a question people ask

"surely I know that it will be better with those who fear God" (8:12), yet "there are righteous men to whom it happens according to the work of the wicked" (8:14). How do the two stand together?

In the text

The chapter has both, in the Preacher's own words, two verses apart. 8:12 already grants what he has seen: "Though a sinner commits crimes a hundred times, and lives long" (8:12). Then: "yet surely I know that it will be better with those who fear God, who are reverent before him" (8:12), and "But it shall not be well with the wicked" (8:13). Then 8:14 tells what he calls vanity: righteous men "to whom it happens according to the work of the wicked" (8:14), and wicked men "to whom it happens according to the work of the righteous" (8:14), "I said that this also is vanity" (8:14). He has said things like both before: "God will judge the righteous and the wicked" (3:17), and "there is a righteous man who perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man who lives long in his evildoing" (7:15). The introduction to Ecclesiastes sets 8:12 and 8:14 side by side, and these notes won't smooth them out, make one the Preacher's real view, or make 8:12 a promise about anyone's life.

The verses

“Though a sinner commits crimes a hundred times, and lives long, yet surely I know that it will be better with those who fear God, who are reverent before him. But it shall not be well with the wicked, neither shall he lengthen days like a shadow, because he doesn’t fear God. There is a vanity which is done on the earth, that there are righteous men to whom it happens according to the work of the wicked. Again, there are wicked men to whom it happens according to the work of the righteous. I said that this also is vanity.”
Ecclesiastes 8:12-14 · World English Bible
“I said in my heart, “God will judge the righteous and the wicked; for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.””
Ecclesiastes 3:17 · World English Bible
“All this I have seen in my days of vanity: there is a righteous man who perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man who lives long in his evildoing.”
Ecclesiastes 7:15 · World English Bible

From Favor's study of Ecclesiastes 8

Ecclesiastes 8: Who is like the wise man?

The king's word is "supreme" (8:4), and no man has "power over the day of death" (8:8): in Hebrew both are shilton, a word found only in these two verses. And the Preacher says "surely I know" (8:12) two verses before "this also is vanity" (8:14), and the chapter keeps both.

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