Proverbs 23 · a question people ask

"If you punish him with the rod, he will not die" (23:13). What are these two sayings saying?

In the text

The two verses go together: "Don’t withhold correction from a child. If you punish him with the rod, he will not die" (23:13), and "Punish him with the rod, and save his soul from Sheol" (23:14). Correction is musar, the word of "Apply your heart to instruction" (23:12), the verse just before, and of "Get wisdom, discipline, and understanding" (23:23) (tap correction). The first verse speaks of what is not to be held back from a child; the second sets the rod beside "save his soul from Sheol" (23:14). The sayings say no more about "he will not die" than their own words, and these notes don't either. Right after them the voice turns to "My son": "My son, if your heart is wise, then my heart will be glad, even mine" (23:15). The book speaks of the rod in other sayings too (Proverbs 13:24, 22:15, 29:15), and the honest questions on Proverbs 13 and 22 look at 13:24 and 22:15. These notes explain 23:13-14 only from their own words; they don't apply them to any modern practice, law or debate, or say how anyone should discipline a child. If these sayings touch anyone harmed at home, make room to talk, and help them find someone they trust to talk to further, such as a pastor or a counselor.

The verses

“Apply your heart to instruction, and your ears to the words of knowledge. Don’t withhold correction from a child. If you punish him with the rod, he will not die. Punish him with the rod, and save his soul from Sheol. My son, if your heart is wise, then my heart will be glad, even mine.”
Proverbs 23:12-15 · World English Bible
“Buy the truth, and don’t sell it. Get wisdom, discipline, and understanding.”
Proverbs 23:23 · World English Bible
“One who spares the rod hates his son, but one who loves him is careful to discipline him.”
Proverbs 13:24 · World English Bible
“Folly is bound up in the heart of a child; the rod of discipline drives it far from him.”
Proverbs 22:15 · World English Bible

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Proverbs 23: Give me your heart

One Hebrew word stands behind "surely there is a future hope" (23:18), said to the one who fears the LORD, and "In the end, it bites like a snake" (23:32), said of wine. And in 23:5 one verb is used for setting your eyes on "that which is not" and for what "sprouts wings like an eagle and flies in the sky".

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