Job 12 · a question people ask

Job and his friends all say God is wise and mighty. So what are they arguing about?

In the text

Job says he knows what they know: "I am not inferior to you. Yes, who doesn’t know such things as these?" (12:3), and "What you know, I know also" (13:2). On God's wisdom and power his words here stand close to theirs: Job's "With God is wisdom and might" (12:13), Eliphaz's "He takes the wise in their own craftiness" (5:13), Zophar's "Can you fathom the mystery of God?" (11:7). Where they part is what it all says about Job. Zophar had said, "Know therefore that God exacts of you less than your iniquity deserves" (11:6), and Bildad, "If you were pure and upright, surely now he would awaken for you" (8:6). Job says, "The just, the blameless man is a joke" (12:4), and "The tents of robbers prosper. Those who provoke God are secure" (12:6). In the next chapter he says to them, "But you are forgers of lies" (13:4), and "Will you speak unrighteously for God, and talk deceitfully for him?" (13:7). The book gives its word on the friends at the end (42:7), without saying which of their words it has in view, and the LORD questions Job too (38:2). These notes set the verses side by side and don't decide between them.

The verses

“But I have understanding as well as you; I am not inferior to you. Yes, who doesn’t know such things as these?”
Job 12:3 · World English Bible
“What you know, I know also. I am not inferior to you.”
Job 13:2 · World English Bible
““With God is wisdom and might. He has counsel and understanding.”
Job 12:13 · World English Bible
“He takes the wise in their own craftiness; the counsel of the cunning is carried headlong.”
Job 5:13 · World English Bible

From Favor's study of Job 12

Job 12: With God is wisdom and might

Job 12:9 is the only place in all the speeches, outside the book's own headings, where the WEB prints the LORD: "the LORD’s hand has done this", in the same Hebrew words as Isaiah 41:20. And two of Job's lines on God humbling the great, 12:21 and 12:24, stand together, in the same Hebrew words, in one psalm verse (Psalm 107:40).

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